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Post by happypacker on Nov 5, 2016 15:55:43 GMT -5
I would rather die a fast death than succumb to a slow degrading lying A-moral money hunger greedy death. I will vote this coming Tuesday and I will do so with the thought of trying to help stop the elite top 1% from running this country and destroying the majority working middle class. remember what the Japanese leader said once they started WW@. In so many words he feared that they could never win as long as the PEOPLE of the country were almost all armed. That still holds true today the public armed and united can beat any invasion. Thank God we have a police system in this country that coulds act as a first line of denfense if for some reason the Army and national guard are busy fighting elsewhere and need help.
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Post by TW on Nov 6, 2016 7:32:08 GMT -5
Voting is important. What bothers me right now is how many are voting with harmful intent, against others, because of the color or their skin, or the church they attend. I never thought I'd be ashamed of our nation, but I am, because of where we stand. This election shouldn't be happening. I've never seen a totally unacceptable person running for the presidency before Trump.
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Post by happypacker on Nov 9, 2016 6:07:50 GMT -5
When you teach your kids not to respect the flag and your country,, you fail. The media and evil have over the years taken away the rights of Americans by claiming there rights have been abused. IE, Freedom of speech is great, but even taken to extreme then it will harm. Laws that are made to benefit the society and the welfare of the people fails when people think that they need not follow them because they have the right. There are limits to how one interprets the laws. There is no unity when you can do whatever you want That is why we are so divided SMALL groups are running the larger population. Time to put the welfare of the country first and not the greedy opportunists who lie and brain wash the many. Pledge of Allegiance and singing proudly our anthem needs to come back. Burning our Flag should not be a "right" Of an American. Trump won because so many people were and are tired of the wealthy ,elected officials Government not helping the Country. I am not saying that Trump is the right answer, but I also feel that Clinton is not as well. To bad to me this was the lowest election I have ever been a part of. If they were this countries best,,, then we will fall soon. Good luck to all and may we all find a way.
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Post by TW on Nov 9, 2016 11:03:04 GMT -5
Clinton failed to address any issues over the last two or three weeks of the campaign. Even the issue about the e-mails, when it came up, she said; "People don't want to hear about this! Move on!" It brought back images of her comments related to Benghazi. Then there were several police officers killed over a short span of time, and she didn't talk about law and order one time. She said there had to be better training for police officers, and more understanding when dealing with the black community. It did not address anything related to the issue.
Like one friend told me, "She became condescending. She figured she had it won, and we didn't matter." I agree with him.
What Clinton did over the last few weeks has done more to hurt the Democratic Party than anyone imagines. After she was pretty much handed the nomination through the Democratic "machine," and a large bankroll, she squandered it all, through ineptness.
I hope she stays away from anything associated with politics. She doesn't belong there. She's just as bad as Trump.
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Post by happypacker on Nov 9, 2016 13:12:46 GMT -5
+1
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Post by happypacker on Nov 11, 2016 13:47:34 GMT -5
I SEE THAT Trump is already doing some good. before he even takes office he has gotten millions of people to run to the P.C. /phone, etc. to get Obama care health insurance. That mean far fewer people will be using the system to get free health care paid by the tax payers. good work eh?
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Post by nick20 on Nov 16, 2016 0:05:43 GMT -5
Trying to get rid of Obamacare is going to be a hard slog for a number of reasons, mostly because the insurance companies reconfigured themselves to comply with the law and its provisions - no lifetime caps, children are covered by parents insurance until 26 etc. is the ACA perfect<? No, but part odf the blame for that falls on the supreme court when they upheld the law but decoupled Medicaid expansion. The law IS working, 20 million people have insurance who previously did not have it. Repealing the law would likely force insurance costs through the roof, and we'd have a situation where the healthy would just go without insurance
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Post by happypacker on Nov 16, 2016 10:38:52 GMT -5
+1
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Post by TW on Nov 18, 2016 22:56:39 GMT -5
They won't eliminate ACA. They won't dump 20 million people out, without insurance. But what they will do is open it up to allow insurance companies to gouge the living hell out of everyone in the US, and cut their services to the bone, proving once again, that the insurance and medical lobbies are the strongest lobbies we have.
We can blame Trump if we want, but we probably should blame Clinton. She had this arrogant, smug attitude of self righteousness leading up to the election, and it bit her, and us in the arse. There was no excuse for her abandoning everyone except minorities, but she did.
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Post by happypacker on Nov 23, 2016 13:28:40 GMT -5
Trump paid hundreds of millions to rig the vote in 3 states to get the electoral votes! No prove yet but they are looking into it! OH what a crazy election. It an't over yet!!
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Post by TW on Nov 23, 2016 22:15:39 GMT -5
I'm not certain a recount would change it. The fact remains, she conceded the election. But, if there was fraud that created his win, that could be grounds for her claiming the victory.
I don't honestly believe this will happen, but I do know he lost the popular vote by 2 million, and that's a huge number.
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Post by nick20 on Nov 29, 2016 0:35:22 GMT -5
concessions have no legal force TW, Gore retracted his concession to Bush in 2000 after Election Day when Florida was separated by a couple thousand votes. if WI MI and PA flip blue, the concession will be retracted.
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Post by TW on Nov 29, 2016 19:08:56 GMT -5
I wonder what would happen if they found at that all three of those states went to Clinton in recounts. Can you imagine the rioting and trouble that would follow?
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Post by nick20 on Nov 30, 2016 18:28:45 GMT -5
yes, but that would be preferable to 4 years of trump. pretty much everyone hes looking at for cabinet positions- Devos for education, Palin for Interior, Romney for Secretary of state- are completely nuts.
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Post by happypacker on Nov 30, 2016 20:15:05 GMT -5
Trump just talked Carrier into keeping 1,000 jobs in colt territory instead of moving to Mexico. Nice work I think.
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