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Post by packerfanfran on Nov 7, 2009 11:00:00 GMT -5
No fool...I'm saying they are people entitled to the same rights as everyone else. Sure hope your Polish girlfriend isn't using you in an attempt to stay in this country legally. I mean why else would she go out with you. I mean really  |
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Post by packerconvert on Nov 7, 2009 11:04:05 GMT -5
Geezus. They are entitled to the same rights as everyone. Men can marry women. Those are the rights of all. Equal rights!
What you are asking for is special rights and if you allow people to marry based on their sexual proclivities, then you must allow the man who wants to marry his pig to marry as well because as we have disected, the rights you ask for are based on sexual orientation.
Should we allow pedophiles to marry children because that is their sexual orientation?
I don't think so.
And my Commie girlfriend attained her American citizenship on her own merit.
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Post by packerfanfran on Nov 7, 2009 11:10:01 GMT -5
Still waiting for examples of gay couple abusing or murdering their children. Can you say the word homophobic?  |
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Post by packerconvert on Nov 7, 2009 11:13:43 GMT -5
Why do i need to post criminal activities that can be found in all stratums of life. It has nothing to do with sexual orientation and is a red herring trying to re-direct me to address things that are not relevant because you are losing this debate.
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Post by TMWight on Nov 7, 2009 11:14:20 GMT -5
Gays don't have equal rights when it comes to health benefits that they're partner receives or life insurance they receive in an untimely death.
TW if marriage is religious based than why do we have it in the government in the first place and why aren't we, that are married, bound by a civil union rather than by marriage?
PC, school doesn't teach you about a man and a woman being married, religion and home life do.
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Post by packerfanfran on Nov 7, 2009 11:20:28 GMT -5
TM.. where I work, people are given equal rights...gay couples can put their partners on their health and life insurance and well as heterosexual couples that are "living together" without the "sanctity "of marriage. PC..aren't you afraid your Polish girlfriend could go gay....I would if I dated a pinko like you.  |
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Post by packerconvert on Nov 7, 2009 11:20:55 GMT -5
Gays would if they observed the same rights as everyone else. Their informed choice not to marry a woman, therefore, their choice not to be part of health benefits, life insurance, etc.
If you advocate what you are advocating, the pig lover can insure his pig and get oodles of cash when the pig dies.
I don't foresee that happening......uh anytime soon anyway.
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Post by packerconvert on Nov 7, 2009 11:23:10 GMT -5
TM.. where I work, people are given equal rights...gay couples can put their partners on their health and life insurance and well as heterosexual couples that are "living together" without the "sanctity "of marriage. PC..aren't you afraid your Polish girlfriend could go gay....I would if I dated a pinko like you. You touched on something very curious. The same thing your employment offers was offered in other states. Once gay marriage was passed in those states, those people were stripped of those benefits because it was discriminatory against male/female couples who did not marry. |
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Post by packerfanfran on Nov 7, 2009 11:25:03 GMT -5
Why do i need to post criminal activities that can be found in all stratums of life. It has nothing to do with sexual orientation and is a red herring trying to re-direct me to address things that are not relevant because you are losing this debate. Because I can post thousands of instances of "normal" people and have yet to find an instance of a gay couple doing this. Wake up and smell the roses or remain in your cave neanderthal man .  |
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Post by packerconvert on Nov 7, 2009 11:28:12 GMT -5
One would figure you could because gays represent 10 percent of the population, so it stands to reason you can post an abundance of single instances. There is still no correlation between sexual orientation and criminal activity that you have mentioned.
And just how do you feel about stripping couples who co-mingle together of their healthcare insurance because you support gay marriage?
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Post by packerfanfran on Nov 7, 2009 11:28:30 GMT -5
TM.. where I work, people are given equal rights...gay couples can put their partners on their health and life insurance and well as heterosexual couples that are "living together" without the "sanctity "of marriage. PC..aren't you afraid your Polish girlfriend could go gay....I would if I dated a pinko like you. You touched on something very curious. The same thing your employment offers was offered in other states. Once gay marriage was passed in those states, those people were stripped of those benefits because it was discriminatory against male/female couples who did not marry. Then I work for a company that is fair and realizes people are people all entitled to the same rights. Lucky me.  Married, unmarried..we all get the same rights as it should be. |
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Post by packerconvert on Nov 7, 2009 11:33:48 GMT -5
If gay marriage passed in your state, those people would ahve been stripped of those benefits. The courts have stated specifically that offering unmarried couples health insurance in gay marriage states is discriminatory because they cannot offer gay couples health insurance who are not married...so all lose.
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Post by packerfanfran on Nov 7, 2009 11:41:18 GMT -5
Like it would ever get passed in this ridiculous conservative Republican controlled state. But Sprint offices are located in 40 different states, some of which allow gay marriage and yet it is legal for them to offer the same benefits for all....Not sure if that would be allowed under the Bush administration. |
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Post by amoeba15 on Nov 8, 2009 6:15:02 GMT -5
I have no problem with gay marriage, but I do have a problem with gay people who marry to receive health care coverage for AIDS or who get AIDS after being married and want their health care to cover such AIDS. I know that my position may be insensitive, but tis very simple for people to take the necessary and responsible precautions for having SAFE SEX. Yes, Republicans in bathroom stalls can come out, use protection and marry without being denied health care coverage.  |
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Post by packerconvert on Nov 8, 2009 23:21:43 GMT -5
I have no problem with gay marriage, but I do have a problem with gay people who marry to receive health care coverage for AIDS or who get AIDS after being married and want their health care to cover such AIDS. I know that my position may be insensitive, but tis very simple for people to take the necessary and responsible precautions for having SAFE SEX. Yes, Republicans in bathroom stalls can come out, use protection and marry without being denied health care coverage. Is your position the same when it comes to the utilization of abortion as a form of birth control? Rape/Incest/Danger to the mother accepted as justifiable reasons for abortion of course. |
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Married, unmarried..we all get the same rights as it should be. 