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Post by TMWight on Sept 4, 2009 11:19:22 GMT -5
www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/04/curl-biden-fills-vacationing-obamas-void/ This guy Curl is a joke. He mentions "acting president" more than once in his stupid article. God forbid we have a vice-president actually do some work. Basically all he was talking about was the stimulus package and only mentioned the health-care reform towards the end. I don't have a copy of the speech but it would be interesting to see the context from which this came. I think Biden is doing a better job than Cheney did as far as informing the American people and letting them know what he's doing Also for the RNC to bash Obama about his vacation is rediculous. Bush Jr spent 96 days of his 234 days on the job, prior to 9/11, on vacation. That's 41%!!!! Overall Bush Jr spent 977 of his 2,920 days on a vacation of some sort, that's 29%... I don't think I've ever been on a job where I spent 1/3 of it on vacation. I understand the president is never really "on vacation" maybe they should call it a "retreat."
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Post by packerconvert on Sept 4, 2009 11:44:43 GMT -5
The difference being Bush went to his Ranch.
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Post by TMWight on Sept 4, 2009 12:03:08 GMT -5
What difference does it make though? A vacation is a vacation.
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Post by TW on Sept 4, 2009 12:04:15 GMT -5
It cost as much to go to the ranch as anywhere else. The security bill on any Presidential trip is enormous. They should get a one week vacation after one year of service, and two years for years 2 through 8. If they serve past that, give them an extra week.  There should also be a limit to weekend sojourns. When the nation is crying that there's unemployment problems, it's not wise to be spending money on expensive trips. |
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Post by brewerbruce on Sept 4, 2009 12:08:32 GMT -5
Spending money and stimulating the economy. How many work hours do you think a typical day is for the president?
Bush was on vacation even when he was in Washington for gosh sakes.....my guess is that Obama won't be taking a winter vacation to Cancun.
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Post by TMWight on Sept 4, 2009 15:37:30 GMT -5
I don't think Obama can be blamed for going out and "getting away from it all." Besides, Obama didn't create this mess, Bush did. Poor Obama has the thankless job of cleaning up.
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Post by packerconvert on Sept 5, 2009 7:12:45 GMT -5
Again, to blame this economic mess on Bush is a simpleton's answer to the carnage whose seeds can be found in administrations past.
You have to remember, Barney Frank said everything was fundamentally sound in 2006. If you can't believe a Democrat, who can you believe?
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Post by thegreenmeanie on Sept 6, 2009 9:15:37 GMT -5
Actually the economy is the way it is because of the B.S. sub-prime loans, and Adjustable rate mortgages that banks and financial institutions were loaning people for houses. This all became apparent around 2007, but this was because of the peak around 2005. However, it was the low interest rates of around 2002 that made all of this possible. So there were a lot of factors that went into this situation such as horrible loans to people who shouldn't be getting those loans. The housing bubble bursting, and so on. Now I won't make a huge leap and say this is all on Bush, but these practices were happening all during his watch. Anyone who knows anything about borrowing knew this was going to be a disaster. My dad made a lot of money in real estate in the 1990's and I remember him shaking his head saying these loans should be illegal. No one stepped in.
Also if you want to go for the Bush card you could say the money spent on an illegal war didn't exactly help anything.
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Post by packerconvert on Sept 6, 2009 9:33:41 GMT -5
To build on what Meanie expressed, I think the economic mess can be blamed on policies that poor people should own homes and I would also claim that the downturn in the economy was exacerbated by tens of thousands of lazy people on welfare. If those d**n people would have been working and off the public trough..look at all the money that could have been saved and all of the production that could have been claimed. d**n lazy people!  I am with Meanie. We need to get our priorities straight in this country. |
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Post by packerfanfran on Sept 6, 2009 9:41:08 GMT -5
OK PC...so I'm a lazy person? When I had my car accident and couldn't work for 2 years, I had no income...I cashed in my 401k, sold my car and when I ran out of money, I did go on welfare for about 6 months until I could find a job. Shame on me for being so lazy. Don't assume everyone on welfare is lazy,,,,MORON  |
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Post by packerconvert on Sept 6, 2009 9:51:19 GMT -5
Dude! You're not lazy. A lazy person is one who is capable of working, but chooses not too.
I'd give you the shirt off my back to help you get back on your feet woman!
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Post by packerfanfran on Sept 6, 2009 9:54:09 GMT -5
Isn't it going to get a little cold up there for you to be walking around without your shirt? |
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Post by thegreenmeanie on Sept 6, 2009 10:06:23 GMT -5
Lazy or not those loans that they were giving out like candy were dangerous, and were designed to never be payed off. They should of been illegal and the way banks and financial institutions were conducting their business should of been illegal. I understand that it is everyone's own responsibility to understand what they are signing to and agreeing to, but a bank is an authoritative source. When people go there they trust them. A lot of people got screwed, and a lot of people got loans who should not of gotten loans.
I don't really see how welfare comes in. If you are a bank and giving a loan or mortgage to someone on welfare what is the real problem there? To me, it isn't the person being on welfare.
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Post by packerconvert on Sept 7, 2009 10:06:43 GMT -5
To deny that their has been a government push to get lower income individuals into homes as part of a plan that helped drive the mortgage crisis is partisan thinking.
Most centrist agree that our leaders, both Republican and Democrat let us down with the way investors acted.
Bush let us down by not commanding the regulatory guidelines that could have helped to prevent the "housing bubble" from growing and Democrats certainly could have joined with Republicans in helping to stave off the impending doom instead of saying, "everything is hunky dory!"
We really need to get out of this, "Getting something for nothing" type mentality in this country.
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Post by thegreenmeanie on Sept 7, 2009 13:42:44 GMT -5
To act like that people representing group of people were the only ones getting these horrible loans, and were/are the only ones losing their homes because of it is ignoring what really happened.
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