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Post by packermania on Aug 6, 2009 12:48:41 GMT -5
sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4381335While this doesn't involve Raji at all, the fact that people close to Crabtree are suggesting a year-long holdout publicly perhaps sets the stage for the other draft picks to move on with negotiations of their own. It'll be interesting to see what happens in the 8-12 range as Crabtree's agents continue to screw with other teams' negotiations.
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Post by amoeba15 on Aug 6, 2009 14:39:15 GMT -5
Crabs and his cousin are IDIOTS.
He will lose lots of money IF he decides to holdout for an entire year.
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Post by snowpack on Aug 6, 2009 19:39:56 GMT -5
More good news. THe picks are moving and getting their butts to camp. The 3rd round pick signed this afternoon and the Broncos should have Knowshon(how did his parents come up with that name) signed tonight. Not as good as the 8th rd pick being signed but hopefully it gets Raji's agent talking.
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Post by thegreenmeanie on Aug 6, 2009 22:21:48 GMT -5
Wow... So Al Davis was actually smart on skipping Crabtree?
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Post by TW on Aug 7, 2009 6:55:23 GMT -5
It's beginning to appear the Raiders were wise by passing on Crabtree, no doubt about it.
What ticks me off is that one guy can put a crimp in what is supposed to be a fairly regimented system.
Rookies are paid way too much. So many of them fail, and getting that big buck out front, they become instantly wealthy.
I think you should prove what you can do before you get paid for it.
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Post by 50poundhead on Aug 7, 2009 8:49:06 GMT -5
Knowshon? Sure, I know Shon. Nice guy.
Anyway, agree that Crabtree's idiocy is probably going to get everyone else moving. Someone should show Crabtree Michael Williams' career line.
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Post by miracle on Aug 7, 2009 11:34:19 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind seeing Thompson take a hardlined approach to the Raji deal. They want more guaranteed money, or whatever.... so delete it day-by-day. Raji's potential for great impact in his first year declines day-by-day and week-by-week. Without the repetitions in TC and time with his teammates his potential for being ready to perform at such a high level has to decline steadily. So, the more he holds out the less he performs equates to him being worth less money in my eyes.
Performance pays. Potential... Well, I am not buying game tickets to admire what someone could have been.
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Post by happypacker on Aug 7, 2009 12:21:18 GMT -5
The real deal is not any draft pick should be paid so much money when they never played a down in the NFL. they get a 4-5 year contract. first year should be the min. pay then built in incentives for the second year to the final 4th or 5th year depending on the value to the team he is on.
It is the beat up vet who is in his 6th year who is still performing at a high level who should be rewarded with the extra cash. not a losey rookie who "has potencil" and then gets hurt and can't play. or who never does live up to what people thought he could do.
jmho
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Post by packermania on Aug 7, 2009 15:23:32 GMT -5
The real deal is not any draft pick should be paid so much money when they never played a down in the NFL. they get a 4-5 year contract. first year should be the min. pay then built in incentives for the second year to the final 4th or 5th year depending on the value to the team he is on. It is the beat up vet who is in his 6th year who is still performing at a high level who should be rewarded with the extra cash. not a losey rookie who "has potencil" and then gets hurt and can't play. or who never does live up to what people thought he could do. jmho I think most, if not all of us agree that there needs to be some tweaking, but these rookies do deserve to get paid...they just don't deserve to become the highest paid player at their position. What you suggest makes whatever they did in college irrelevant, and it shouldn't be. I'm not sure what the answer is, and it may boil down to the fact that there is little way to reduce rookie salaries AND make sure they are financially protected in case of a career-ending injury. This is their livelihood that they have spent the past 8+ years of their lives preparing for. I would think they deserve some insurance of some sort in case things go badly. I can't really criticize Raji for not being in camp -- I haven't seen the figures of what he's demanding. I just hope for his sake and for the team's sake he's here soon. |
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Post by firemancheesehead on Aug 7, 2009 17:42:03 GMT -5
According to an article in the MJS, the Packers are the ones in a holding patern. They are waiting to see what the picks before Raji get before they make any deal.
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Post by Doc on Aug 7, 2009 20:36:16 GMT -5
According to an article in the MJS, the Packers are the ones in a holding patern. They are waiting to see what the picks before Raji get before they make any deal. That may be so, and I do understand some-what.... However, isnt the person in camp learning and training more important than a few bucks? Just a thought |
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Post by Doc on Aug 7, 2009 20:43:25 GMT -5
Rarely does a second day pick not get signed. If a first day pick should decide not to sign due to whatever reason, they should not be allowed or be elgible to join into the NFL Draft the next year until day two. This will eliminate the Manning Crap and now the Crabtree Crap! And that is exactly what it is.... CRAP! If they feel that strong about the team, fine then take the cut in pay....
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Post by TW on Aug 7, 2009 21:56:22 GMT -5
I believe the team that drafted them should retain their rights for two years. If a guy wants to sit out two years, and go back into the draft, more power to him.
But the league will move on, and they won't have to be worried about getting drafted early.
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Post by packerbap on Aug 10, 2009 18:28:04 GMT -5
WTMJ 4 in Milwaukee is reporting that not much progress has been made.
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Post by amoeba15 on Aug 11, 2009 11:38:09 GMT -5
Raji's Situation Not Dire....YETB.J. Raji has missed his 10th practice; today (Tuesday) will be the 11th, of Packers training camp. While the two sides are talking, they’re not really making any progress towards a financial resolution. With each passing day, Raji loses valuable knowledge directly concerning his new job description, defensive tackle for the Green Bay Packers. Raji did make it to the OTA’s and mini-camp so he does have more than an inkling as to what’s expected of him and he has seen things on film regarding his responsibilities but there’s nothing like live action to make you better. While it’s important for Raji to soak up as much knowledge, both mentally and physically, as he can, it’s not nearly as important if he were, say, a defensive safety or linebacker. The safety and line backing corp. are the captains of the defense. They are the readers and reactors of the opponent’s offensive schematics. It’s more mental than physical for those 2 particular positions. In Raji’s case, he’s a rusher and a plugger. He presses his massive body forward in the hopes of penetrating into the opponent’s backfield to the point of dragging down the ball carrier or smothering the quarterback. It’s “swat n’ swim” left or right and take on the blocker in front of you. The mental aspect of this isn’t nearly as demanding. What Raji’s losing out on right now is technique information, physical, brutal technique. Tips and rhythm that will make him more of a force in the middle of the Packers newly designed 3-4 defense. What Raji, and the Packers, hope he can accomplish is that eventually he’ll become prolific enough at this physicality aspect of the game that he’ll demand attention from 2 or even 3 blockers, thus soaking up manpower and attention from opponents which in turn will free up another teammate, allowing him to become a force as well. Raji needs to get into camp, but it’s not as dire, this minute, as it would be at other positions. www.620wtmj.com/sports/billmichaels/52960352.html
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