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Post by TW on Jan 19, 2014 22:01:52 GMT -5
Let's see if I can sort this out. I was glad to see the Broncos beat the Pats. I'm not fond of Manning, but I'm less fond of Belicheck. Also, I think the Broncos are the better team.
The Seahawks beat the 49ers. I don't like Pete Carroll. I think he's a dick. I also dislike Richard Sherman quite a bit. He showed why, on national TV. He's a loose cannon, has a big mouth, and as good as me might be, his mouth gets them in trouble way too often. On the other side of the coin, I don't like Kaepernick. He's an arrogant dick. As far as Harbaugh is concerned, they're all arrogant dicks, and bullies when it comes to officials.
So, I'm caught on this one. I'm happy for the Seahawks because I seriously like Russell Wilson, and how he represents the University of Wisconsin in the pros. He's a good reputation for them.
Now, the big one. I think I have to root for Wilson. Go Seahawks!
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Post by tnpackfan7 on Jan 20, 2014 11:12:06 GMT -5
I actually am a fan of Peyton Manning. Have never been a University of Tennessee fan, but would watch while he is there. Just a master of the game...studies and executes and expects perfection of himself and those around him. Carries himself with class.
Seahawks...I wish I could like this team. Hard hitting, aggressive...Russell Wilson, Lynch, Earl Thomas. But the two you mention are big reasons. The others...they have probably the most obnoxious fans in the NFL out here on internet forums.
Sherman is a great player...great. I think a lot of his persona is made up to get attention. Which does not excuse it at all. Actually makes it worse when today and last night he seems surprised that people are reacting that way and "judging" his character on that. Well "Dick" if you don't want people to think that is your character...don't make that your public persona any time a camera is in your face.
Wilson is such a class act...but I can't get past the other things about Seattle so Im pulling for Manning. I like seeing the great ones be great and get him another one with another team would be something pretty cool to watch.
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Post by TW on Jan 20, 2014 11:22:25 GMT -5
I too like watching Manning. There was a time I thought he was good, but not really that good. I thought it was the team around him. There's no doubt he's a system QB, but he's so good at it that no matter what anyone want to believe, he's the best QB in the league today, and probably for the history of the game. You have to take his body of work, and show it for what it is. It's that darned good.
My tipping point was Wilson. Ball played a big part the opposite way, but Wilson is the real deal, and when they beat the 49ers, he was gracious. The complete opposite of what Kaepernick would have been, had their roles been reversed.
I like Dorsey as well. I thought he was going to be a great leader, and he's proved he is. Yet, like Thompson in the time of success, he sits quietly in the background. I like that. Add in Allen. The billionaire who cares so much for Seattle that he has spent a fortune keeping them in professional sports over the years. There's been times that the area has turned on him, yet, he carried on. He's the polar opposite of Snyder in DC, who can't quit tinkering.
I know one thing. This is a game I won't miss. I don't always say that.
Interesting side thought. The cheapest tickets available on Stubb Hubb are $2,500, and they go into the 6-digit numbers for some. This is a joke. It's totally taken away from the people who make football a success. That I blame on the league.
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Post by tnpackfan7 on Jan 20, 2014 11:37:24 GMT -5
I don't think he is a system QB. I think he makes the system what it is. His command of the offense, any offense you put in front of him (other than a read option of course)...and I think he would have success in it.
I agree with you about Wilson. I wish he played for a different team.
The SB is a joke. We looked into it for Indianapolis a few years ago while GB was rolling in the regular season and it was just ridiculous. Its just not for the regular fans but for the fat cats at this point.
Id love to be in that atmosphere for a SB victory for the Packers...but am fine in the comfort of my home or a friends house watching on a nice big TV.
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Post by happypacker on Jan 20, 2014 13:41:14 GMT -5
it is going that way in everything, they let the rich enjoy the working majority carry the load to support the teams and they only get to go. they shrink baseball parks, they charge more for the play-offs the rich get tax breaks and we get the boot. no morals remaining in this country /world.
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Post by TW on Jan 20, 2014 15:41:24 GMT -5
I read an article earlier today where the richest 85 or 86 people in the world own 46% of the wealth. That's scary, because at that level, they are nation makers, and destroyers. The same is becoming apparent in pro sports. The "game" is for the masses, but the limelight of the big games is for the wealthy. I agree on where to watch the game. I've been to NFL Championship games before the Super Bowl, and to NFC Championships after that, and the feeling was great. Not so anymore. They've stolen the joy from it, and turned it into a pure money thing. I'll watch from my recliner on my big screen HD TV, with 5.1 surround sound, and be better for it. Anyhow, my wife makes better game time snacks. She's always coming up with some fantastic decisions. I have no idea what's on the agenda this year.
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Post by tnpackfan7 on Jan 20, 2014 16:18:34 GMT -5
I read an article earlier today where the richest 85 or 86 people in the world own 46% of the wealth. That's scary, because at that level, they are nation makers, and destroyers. The same is becoming apparent in pro sports. The "game" is for the masses, but the limelight of the big games is for the wealthy. I agree on where to watch the game. I've been to NFL Championship games before the Super Bowl, and to NFC Championships after that, and the feeling was great. Not so anymore. They've stolen the joy from it, and turned it into a pure money thing. I'll watch from my recliner on my big screen HD TV, with 5.1 surround sound, and be better for it. Anyhow, my wife makes better game time snacks. She's always coming up with some fantastic decisions. I have no idea what's on the agenda this year. That I agree on. Most stadium food stinks and is overpriced and kiss mine if you want me to pay $8 for a beer.
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Post by TW on Jan 20, 2014 16:29:26 GMT -5
That said, if you ever win a big Powerball jackpot, and decide to have a suite for games up at Lambeau Field, remember me.... I'd sure be glad to fill one of those plush seats in a short sleeve Packer jersey, enjoying a game, eating catered food, and prosciutto that we'd sneak in to "spike" the cheese & crackers!
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Post by tnpackfan7 on Jan 20, 2014 16:49:23 GMT -5
That said, if you ever win a big Powerball jackpot, and decide to have a suite for games up at Lambeau Field, remember me.... I'd sure be glad to fill one of those plush seats in a short sleeve Packer jersey, enjoying a game, eating catered food, and prosciutto that we'd sneak in to "spike" the cheese & crackers! Meh...that does little to appeal to me. Not long after we moved to TN...a group of people from Kimberly Clark (mom worked there for years) made the trek to Carolina for a Packers game against the Panthers. THey had some outdoor tickets and a suite. My mother said she sat in the suite for about 10 minutes and watched people eating pasta salad before she had to switch with someone in the other seats. Grabbed herself a beer and and enjoyed the game outside. Now, my mother would probably take the suite now as she hates the colder weather games. I prefer sitting outside...love the seats my parents have and would love sitting there any chance I got. THough, the full spreads in those suites are nice. We used to get that treatment for NHL games here when my wife worked for Arthur Andersen (pre meltdown).
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Post by TW on Jan 20, 2014 17:20:02 GMT -5
Years ago, before suites were common, I had an "in" with Bill Wirtz who owned the Chicago Blackhawks. He gave me four season passes to his suite, which had 16 seats in it. Now, that started in 1970.
That was fantastic because the food that was brought in was unbelievable, and the people I met even more amazing. It was a "who's who" of sports, politics, and entertainment that went through there, and when people asked who I was, Bill would tell them I was the guy in charge of security, a cop, and his best friend. It gave me a certain leverage in the suite, which he appreciated, to keep people in line. You'd be surprised at how many celebs think they can get away with anything, but when they find out there's a cop/security, they play it straight.
I had a couple of trusted friends on the police department that would go to the games if I didn't, and handle what I did. The only thing I didn't enjoy in the suites was the booze.
That was a rare treat for three years. I had the run of the whole operation. I never saw so many toothless smiles in my life.
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Post by happypacker on Jan 26, 2014 9:00:09 GMT -5
Nothing like what you guys had, but I go to the Tigers double AA baseball in my home town. and my wife works for the largest milk company in the country, they have a suite and I really do not like sitting inside the place(they have 24 seats outside the suite that is higher and apart from the regular seating , I go there, but I do love the girls and guys who come in and serve you anything you want, best of all the food and drink is taken care of by the owner of the suite, right on, I eat lots of food !!
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Post by TW on Jan 26, 2014 12:08:06 GMT -5
For several years, my son advertised at the Texas Rangers AAA park in Round Rock, TX. It gave me a chance to attend games, and meet a lot of very influential people, and enjoy the "good life" at that level. Even there, it's amazing. You just can't beat the "red carpet treatment" for sporting events. You get to enjoy them, and at the same time, sample a little of what the wealthy enjoy non-stop.
Yet, like Tn mentioned, it's not it's all cracked up to be. After a period of time, everything becomes "run of the mill" to us. We no longer appreciate it as much as we do, when it's a special treat.
I don't think I want to lose sight of how great it was going to games, and all the things I've experienced, just because of having too much available, and I lose perspective.
I guess that's why they say money doesn't buy happiness, but it can buy peace of mind, and a lot of help for others, if you do it right with the windfall.
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Post by happypacker on Jan 26, 2014 17:45:37 GMT -5
when I hit the lottery, I will take this whole board and members to the Packer game world series, and then donate to good causes locally and never out of the country. because we have many needy people here and I would want to help here at home before I even think about other countries.
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Post by nick20 on Feb 2, 2014 22:36:20 GMT -5
well Seattle beat the crap out of Denver tonight. 43-8. Wilson gets his first ring, and for my money, took a big step towards Canton today. Yes there are guys like Trent Dilfer who have a SB ring, but hes only getting in by buying a ticket, but Wilson if he stays healthy is well on his way. Manning, of course is going to Canton anyway, hes one of the all-time greats. Seattle feasted on him tonight, they were absolutely relentless. Seattle scored literally every way you can, safety, fg, passing and running tds, kickoff return and int return. the only things they didnt do was break 50 and pitch a shutout.
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Post by TW on Feb 3, 2014 0:10:55 GMT -5
I had to laugh when I thought about people calling Wilson a "game manager," and not a solid QB. I watched him escape from defenders and make several throws on the run, threading needles to get key completions. At least three of them were on 3rd down, and maintained drives that ended up with scores. I'm not certain what his QB rating was, but I'd bet it was around 120.
If the Packers wanted to learn something, watch a tape of this game, and learn how to tackle. The Seahawks do it like professionals, not swatting at people like the Packers defenders.
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