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Post by TMWight on Sept 8, 2009 7:31:30 GMT -5
I've talked to Meanie about this but I need some more guidance.
I recently went to Canada and was amazed about how much they recycle everything. I don't think it's something impossible that can be done here, we just have a lot of hard headed people. In Canada you can buy a case of beer and get 10 cents for every bottle you bring back to the liquor store. Those bottles are used a total of 6 times and then made into reusable items and products. They have brought their recycling up and trash down. I was simply amazed that their trash bags is a simply grocery bag and everything else is recycled. Their grass clippings are gathered up and placed in a special bag for pick-up, when you need mulch it's free and comes from that same grass you put out.
It makes me sick how much we use items and just throw it away. My dad worked for the city sanitation where he lives and told me that recycling was an extra bill and that they would just place the recycling intot he regular trash. That's irresponsible. We need to do more for our earth and be held accountable as we're some of the big trash producers in the world.
In my neighborhood we have free recycling but I'm the only one on my street to do it. So I want to know what I should do to get more people on board. How do I convince people that this is good for the enviornment? How can I show people that the cost is the same and that there will be the same number of trucks on the road as there are now? How can we get an entire community to help? Do you think this can be a county-wide, state-wide and then a country-wide thing?
My wife's uncle said it took time, about 5 years to be exact, and I imagine it would take maybe 3 times that time here in the States.
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Post by miracle on Sept 8, 2009 10:34:18 GMT -5
Good thoughts.
I'm typically not one that likes to pattern myself after the European ways, but one thing that I think those countries have done one thing quite intelligently in regards to the environment. There is no such thing as "to go" over there. If you want a cup of coffee, you sit down at a table and drink from cup. It isn't Styrofoam, it isn't covered in heat-absorbing cardboard... it's ceramic. Then they do something real weird -- they wash and reuse that coffee cup.
Many states, including Michigan and Iowa, have a bottle deposit on aluminum cans, glass bottles, and plastic bottles. You pay an additional 5 or 10 cents per item at check-out but that money is returned to you when you return the empty container. Many states are resistant -- and I cannot figure out which special interest is the hold up for this good idea.
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Post by packerconvert on Sept 8, 2009 18:06:13 GMT -5
Here is some guidance for you that you may not have realized.
These pinkos running around trying to save the planet, really aren't concerned about saving the planet.
These Pinkos are only concerned with saving their own ass and making an industry out of their perversion to count cow farts.
Mother earth is far tougher and far more resilient than the Commies give credit towards.
"Oh mother earth is fragile." Baloney! Humanity is fragile.
Long after humans are gone, mother earth will still be spinning and twirling and still look like that wonderful marble in the Milky Way.
So please, don't talk about saving mother earth. If you really are interested in recycling, do it because you wish to perpetuate the longevity of the human race. Don't be a bullschitter!
Thank you and have a good day.
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Post by packerfanfran on Sept 8, 2009 18:10:13 GMT -5
Tm..don't listen to PC...he's moronic  Keep on recycling!!!!  |
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Post by packerconvert on Sept 8, 2009 18:14:58 GMT -5
Tm..don't listen to PC...he's moronic Keep on recycling!!!! I didn't advise against recyling. It's a great idea, but don't tell me we are killing mother earth. Mother earth will kick our collecitve butts off this planet long before we could ever do her harm. Just keeping things real man. |
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Post by packerfanfran on Sept 8, 2009 18:40:15 GMT -5
Tm..don't listen to PC...he's moronic Keep on recycling!!!! I didn't advise against recyling. It's a great idea, but don't tell me we are killing mother earth. Mother earth will kick our collecitve butts off this planet long before we could ever do her harm. Just keeping things real man. So you think mother earth is absorbing all the garbage that washes up on the beach from people who just dump overboard? All the cans, bottles, plastic, and other unmentionables don't just disintegrate. That's what is real dude!! |
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Post by thegreenmeanie on Sept 8, 2009 19:53:37 GMT -5
Seriously PC, you are not that stupid. Yes it's ignorant for Humans to believe they can just flat out destroy this planet, however, that doesn't mean they aren't doing damage to it. Granted every time they do mother nature will/can strike back and will win that doesn't give humans a free pass to do whatever the hell they want to the planet.
This topic pisses me off the most, because of the spin. You can't have one conversation about being more responsible to the planet that gives us life without people spinning it to "OMFGZZZ LIKE HE TOTALLY THINKS WEZ BLOWING UP THE PLANET?!?!?!" Sometimes you can have a conversation about being more responsible with waste and recycling without it reflecting a dooms day scenario with Earth.
A doesn't always equal B in this. It is inexcusable that we are not doing some of the things other countries in the world are doing in regards to recycling. We use to lead the way in progress and inovation and now all we do is huff and puff at everything that offers a positive change. Well, thats not true. If it can make us lazier or fatter we are all about spreading it throughout the land.
Becoming more green will help lower the pollution, which is good, but it can also create jobs, and help sustain ecosystems among other things. Whether you believe Humans are 90% responsible for the warming trend or 2% it has no effect on the fact that we should be recycling more. It's called progress. Do you still wash your clothes on a washing board? Maybe cook your food over a fire everyday? Still drive a gasoline powered car.... oh wait, that one you do. This need for you people on the right to try and stop progress is frustrating to say the least. You need to tie everything to an agenda and spin the crap out of it. When will you learn that moving forward and changing the way things are done will bring on new opportunities for you guys to exploit it and still get rich. You don't need to keep us in the stone age for that to happen.
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Post by packerfanfran on Sept 8, 2009 20:08:14 GMT -5
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Post by TMWight on Sept 8, 2009 21:07:45 GMT -5
PC, you're right that there are people out there who see this as a money maker. Personally, I'm taking some accountability for my actions. I realized when I came back from Canada that I disposed of too many recyclable products and that I could do something about it. Now, I fill up 2 recycling bags before I get my regular garbage half-way filled.
I refuse to stand by now and let my pollution consume me. I refuse to take the stance that because the Jones' aren't doing it then I wont. It's irresponsible of me to do and it's irresponsible for everyone else as well. It's amazing that there is so much resistance from this. Regardless of your political affiliation you should take some accountability for your actions. Use a glass instead of a bottle of water, use a rag instead of papertowels, think of everyday things you do and ask yourself: Can I do better?
Don't think that everything has a hidden agenda PC, I was just trying to see how I could get more people on board.
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Post by thegreenmeanie on Sept 8, 2009 21:13:00 GMT -5
One of the biggest power wasters is the dryer ... I know of three of us who live in Florida... Do we need a dryer all the time?
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Post by packerconvert on Sept 11, 2009 14:03:33 GMT -5
To Fran I dontknowwhatimtalkinabout.
If this planet can survive a meteor impact that wiped out most of life, it can survive a pile of garbage.
Due to GM's statement about getting rich by going green, I now support the green agenda!
GO GIRLS WHO LOVE PRETTY BIRDS!
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Post by gopackgo2000 on Sept 11, 2009 22:33:23 GMT -5
As a Christian I look at this issue in a slightly different way. I believe God created everything here and entrusted us to take care of it and be good stewards of it. So with that mindset I tend to recycle and reuse as much as I can. Not to save a planet that doesn't need saving, rather to show my creator respect for what he has given me. I am not perfect with this, but I do make a concerted effort. i too notice that I do not need to push the trash to the curb every week because so much of what we use can be recycled!
The Al Gore liars trying to make a buck off of a perversion of the truth...they are idiots!!! I just saw a report the other day on the weather channel that the tempatures of the earth have been decreasing since 1998! Wow before the whole green movement! Maybe it is a natural cycle??!??!!!?? DUH!
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Post by TMWight on Sept 13, 2009 11:18:43 GMT -5
As a Christian I look at this issue in a slightly different way. I believe God created everything here and entrusted us to take care of it and be good stewards of it. So with that mindset I tend to recycle and reuse as much as I can. Not to save a planet that doesn't need saving, rather to show my creator respect for what he has given me. I am not perfect with this, but I do make a concerted effort. i too notice that I do not need to push the trash to the curb every week because so much of what we use can be recycled! The Al Gore liars trying to make a buck off of a perversion of the truth...they are idiots!!! I just saw a report the other day on the weather channel that the tempatures of the earth have been decreasing since 1998! Wow before the whole green movement! Maybe it is a natural cycle??!??!!!?? DUH! They made a mistake by naming it "Global Warming" they should have started with "Climate Change". It's irresponsible to turn a blind eye to what we've done to our planet. Personally I think you're wrong that a "natural cycle". At my wife's school they took the kids "el carte" privileges away from them for not recycling during lunch. I'm happy to hear that they're being punished. |
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Post by packerconvert on Sept 13, 2009 22:37:24 GMT -5
The Andromeda galaxy is going to devour our galaxy as both hurdle towards each other.
Do liberals have a plan to stop that natural phenomenon from happening as well?
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Post by TMWight on Sept 14, 2009 11:18:04 GMT -5
The Andromeda galaxy is going to devour our galaxy as both hurdle towards each other. Do liberals have a plan to stop that natural phenomenon from happening as well? Well we'll most likely join into one universe. But it's 2.5 billion years from happening, lets stop our pollution so we can see it happen!!! |
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