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Post by miracle on Aug 11, 2009 11:49:12 GMT -5
Either this poor guy has the grim reaper following his every move or he is fast becoming the biggest Packers' draft bust of the decade. I have tried to continue to be open-minded about Harrell, and chalk it up to a series of unfortunate happenings, but at some point we should expect contribution out of a #16 pick. I'm beginning to lean toward the naysayers' way and believe Harrell isn't going to be a contributor to this team. Is it getting closer to being time to close the book on Harrell? I'd say it's definitely closer to that time, but not time yet. There's roughly 6 months left in the season. If Harrell isn't on the active roster (and sees significant playing time) for 14-16 games, I'll quickly get off the fence and join the naysayers. Harrell having back trouble again
End Justin Harrell is battling back spasms, the latest setback in the former first-round draft pick's injury plagued three years in Green Bay.
"He's fighting through it," coach Mike McCarthy said after practice this morning. "It's a little bit of a setback for him."
McCarthy did not offer a timetable for Harrell's return -- he's sat out all team drills since late last week, but only today did McCarthy confirm it's his back.
Harrell had two surgeries last year to address a bulging disc in his back, but he pronounced himself healed this spring after visited a Green Bay chiropractor.
-- Tom Pelissero, tpelisse@greenbaypressgazette.com
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Post by packfanforever on Aug 11, 2009 12:17:35 GMT -5
It's a shame Harrell didn't compete in a different era.   |
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Post by amoeba15 on Aug 11, 2009 12:41:21 GMT -5
Since I have been to physical therapy for approximately 300 one-hour sessions during the past three years and have learned much, I would try to have laser, ultrasound and electric stim. used to correct the problem. Depending upon whether the problem is muscular or bone/cartilage related, one of those three techniques should help reduce the problems that Harrell is experiencing.
There are probably some meds (anti-inflams, pain pills, muscle relaxors, JD...) that might be helpful.
Physcial therapists will probably resort to stretching and strengthening.
Heck, Harrell might have to resort to all of the above. However, Harrell is truly the only person who can reveal what actually works for him. Since he is continuing to have problems, Harrell obviously has not found the solution.
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Post by WhatUSaid on Aug 11, 2009 13:05:27 GMT -5
I thought this thread was about me? Guess not.
I completely agree with you AMO.
I'm kinda surprised a chiropractor hasn't been able to help Harrell. It gave me relief when I first injured my back. I used to go 3 times a week twice for an adjustment, therapy/massage. It didn't correct my problem(only surgery would) but it did help a lot with pain, range of motion. Maybe Harrell should try yoga.
Basically what I'm saying is that this is manageable.
I won't stick a fork in Harrell till he hits IR.
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Post by needalife457 on Aug 11, 2009 13:15:04 GMT -5
I don't think Harrel is going to go down as the worst pick of the decade even though alot of people knew that was a brutal pick. I would have to put Ahmad Carrol and BJ Sander though on a whole different level then Harrel, because when ever Harrel has played he has done a pretty good job at tying up the blockers and holding his ground, Carrol was just terrible but I am willing to throw piss poor coaching into it also from Schotty.
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Post by sharpefan on Aug 11, 2009 17:37:52 GMT -5
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Post by miracle on Aug 11, 2009 18:52:32 GMT -5
I don't think Harrel is going to go down as the worst pick of the decade even though alot of people knew that was a brutal pick. I would have to put Ahmad Carrol and BJ Sander though on a whole different level then Harrel, because when ever Harrel has played he has done a pretty good job at tying up the blockers and holding his ground, Carrol was just terrible but I am willing to throw piss poor coaching into it also from Schotty. I would respectfully disagree -- well, to a certain extent. Carrol and Sander, as poorly as they performed, at least showed up to perform poorly. We have all read about and heard about the potential Harrell has (and I hope he gets through this and has a chance to shine this year), but that doesn't mean anything if he finishes his career with the Packers only seeing a few dozens live snaps. |
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Post by TW on Aug 11, 2009 19:20:46 GMT -5
Even worse. Assume Harrell does start to develop slowly. Assume the Packers pay the freight on his rookie contract. He's going to end up going free agent, and making a good check somewhere else.
In all honesty, Harrell is now a "no-win" situation for the Packers.
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Post by needalife457 on Aug 11, 2009 19:46:32 GMT -5
I don't think Harrel is going to go down as the worst pick of the decade even though alot of people knew that was a brutal pick. I would have to put Ahmad Carrol and BJ Sander though on a whole different level then Harrel, because when ever Harrel has played he has done a pretty good job at tying up the blockers and holding his ground, Carrol was just terrible but I am willing to throw piss poor coaching into it also from Schotty. I would respectfully disagree -- well, to a certain extent. Carrol and Sander, as poorly as they performed, at least showed up to perform poorly. We have all read about and heard about the potential Harrell has (and I hope he gets through this and has a chance to shine this year), but that doesn't mean anything if he finishes his career with the Packers only seeing a few dozens live snaps. We have to agree to disagree, when Harrel has played he has been decent and has yet to really cost the Packers a game unlike Carrol who couldn't stop getting pass interference or taunting calls to save his life. On top of that he was a cockly little guy too, at least Harrel is respectful and nice enough to try and prove his doubters wrong. Also you want to talk about potential Sherman talked him up as a top five pick when he took him. Just my thoughts miracle they don't mean anything other than what I think. But I won't disagree though Harrel has been a bust even though I did support him when he was drafted. |
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Post by miracle on Aug 17, 2009 20:28:49 GMT -5
From bad to worse: Justin Harrell fears his NFL career is over
“Most definitely,” the Green Bay Packers’ injury-plagued defensive end said on Monday. “Anytime you have back surgery, it’s always a red flag, and then having two in one year. It’s one of those things, man — you’re trying to fight through it and trying to fight through it, and ...
“Hey, I don’t want to think about that right now, because hopefully, that’s (not going to happen). But it’s definitely in my mind.”
How could it not be?
The lower back that required two surgeries and cost Harrell 10 games last year flared up again the first week of training camp, and it hasn’t gotten much better since he first missed practice on Aug. 6.
The Packers are sending out studies to specialists to try to come up with yet another game plan for healing their 2007 first-round draft pick. But even for a generally jovial guy like Harrell — who in May pronounced himself “cured” after an offseason visit to a Green Bay chiropractor — it’s difficult to be optimistic.
“It’s probably been the worst week of my life,” Harrell said. “Of anything I’ve been through, all the injuries and things like that — this is definitely the toughest. You get up so high and you’re feeling good, and just like that, I’m back to where I was before.”
The pain isn’t as bad or as widespread, but Harrell said the sensation he feels in his back and upper buttocks is similar to when he first hurt his back lifting weights in March 2008. He had surgery soon after to shave down a bulging disc, then underwent a second surgery last August to remove fragments.
There was no specific catalyst for the latest setback - the back "just started feeling a little funny" on about the fourth day of camp, and it hasn’t felt right since. Only on Monday did Harrell begin light cardio work on a stationary bike, one minuscule step in what looks like another long and challenging rehabilitation process. Is there any type of draft compensation that would be given to the Packers in the case Harrell retires because of injury? Kind of like the free agent situation like Ahman Green? I can't remember the Murphy situation and if there was anything there. I didn't think so, but I can hope. |
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Post by gopackgo2000 on Aug 17, 2009 20:41:25 GMT -5
Brett Favre just called he says to get Harrell some Vicodin STAT!!!
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Post by thegreenmeanie on Aug 17, 2009 21:08:25 GMT -5
This is too bad. It's a shame he keeps running into these set backs.
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Post by GullrockGeorge on Aug 17, 2009 21:20:41 GMT -5
Just bad luck. If he retires or can't play again, we get nothing for him and will just need to write it off as a bad pick. It happens. However, it better not happen regularly. If Raji and Matthews work out, TT's record in the first round won't be too bad, especially if Rodgers continues to improve.
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Post by 50poundhead on Aug 18, 2009 10:58:02 GMT -5
I'm not going to dog Harrell as the worst pick of all time. He was a reach and this wasn't the injury he was recovering from when the Packers drafted him, so the fact that he hasn't been able to get on the field is largely unfortunate. But Thompson did reach and that has to be considered as well.
Would I have preferred another pick? Sure. Sander will still, in my mind, go down as the dumbest pick ever made by the Packer brass. He actually played two seasons (suited up for one) and was so bad that he never played in another regular season game. And it wasn't due to injury. It was due to flat-out lack of talent.
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