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Post by Talaren on Jul 29, 2009 0:56:11 GMT -5
Does this impact the vikings much or no?
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Post by Doc on Jul 29, 2009 3:33:19 GMT -5
It didnt matter one way or another to me. I think the Vikings would have been better off with him, rather than without.
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Post by 50poundhead on Jul 29, 2009 6:46:59 GMT -5
I am surprised, but as I wrote last week, I never thought this was the done deal many believed it to be.
I have a difficult time gauging Brett's sincerity, but in the end, I think this boiled down to the realization that his presence in Minnesota would create a "Super Bowl or Bust" mentality that would have been difficult to operate within. There would have been no free passes issued by the Viking fans or Minnesota media and let's face it, deserved or not, Brett got a few of those, especially from the fans, in his last few seasons in Green Bay.
I looked at John Smoltz' stats with the Red Sox the other day and noted he was struggling. He may turn it around (or go to the bullpen and help the Red Sox that way), but he left Atlanta all grumpy because the Braves wouldn't dish out a guaranteed contract that he felt he deserved last off-season. After looking at the stats, I thought about Favre. The situation isn't an exact parallel, but when you're 40 years old and coming into a new system and the expectations are sky high, it's a "win big, lose big" situation. I don't think Brett wanted to risk "losing big" and who can really blame him.
Now watch, Rodgers will get banged up in the first pre-season game and Brett will be our quarterback opening day. LOL.
EDIT: As for the Vikings, I think the risk of having Favre around was extremely high. It could have paid off big-time (although when the state is as broke as this one is, a new stadium is a pipe dream right now), but if they had started 0-2, the locker room would have imploded. I still think Tavaris Jackson and Sage Rosenfels deserve gold star awards for keeping their mouths shut.
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Post by GullrockGeorge on Jul 29, 2009 7:45:16 GMT -5
I was not surpised very much. 40 years old, arm surgery, no longer really staying in top shape, etc., etc. I think he figures 5-6 months is too much and he'd have broken down.
Now, before everyone is sure it's over . . . . . he tells Steve Mariucci he's going to continue to throw and work-out. Hmmmmmm. . . . . . maybe it's not over and what he really wants to do is spare himself the grind of training camp. Does he try to latch on with the Vikes or another team who's in trouble late in camp? Is he thinking he's going to pull a Vinnie T. and join some team after the season starts and maybe get some starts? Maybe he's innocently just trying to stay in shape? I highly doubt the last one is true. I think he just can't close the door.
As for the Vikes, they are a solid team no matter what, but I do believe a healthy Favre would have made them more dangerous. I think they are the favorites to win the division but like everyone else, they could be derailed by some injuries and bad luck. I think the Bears and Packers have a decent chance to win the division if things fall into place for either team.
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Post by amoeba15 on Jul 29, 2009 10:15:13 GMT -5
WOW...I am stunned. I LOVE the fact that Favre, for the time being, stuck it to the Vikings. HOWEVER, I truly wonder whether Favre behaved the way that he did for MORE money. IMAGINE IF the Packers increased their offer, prior to Favre going to the Jets, from $20 million to more then $20 million for Favre to stay retired. In fact, it was approximately one year ago today (7/30-31/08) when the Packers offered Favre $20 million to stay retired. blogs.jsonline.com/packers/archive/2008/07/30/report-packers-offer-favre-20-million-to-stay-home.aspxsports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Packers-offer-Favre-20-million-stay-retired-inc?urn=nfl,97561 I have renewed respect for Favre and take back anything bad that I ever said about him IF he does not play for the Vikings. Also, although the Vikings might think of having Favre become their starter should a Viking player get injured, the same could still be true for the Packers, IF Rodgers, God forbid, were injured. |
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Post by pacdoty on Jul 29, 2009 10:15:17 GMT -5
Thank God an attack of sanity. He will save his legacy and his face. As Nick said the healing can begin and I for one love the news. I had no problem with him playing for another team. It was the REASON he wanted to play for an NFC north rival that I was upset about and now it seems he's not willing to sacrifice what he has built here in Wisconsin and in the NFL. Thank you Brett for a wise decision and for your years of service. MM once said that during the mess when he wanted to return to play for the Packers that Brett wasnt in a proper frame of mind to play football for the Packers and that Brett was "very emotional". I'm so glad to hear this that I'm dancing right now, and that is pretty ugly sight to be sure. He remains the Packs Brett Favre and my hero who righted the ship before it was too late. Let the healing begin and the induction into the ring of honor too. WOW! I think that the Headster is spot on with all the pressure. Win or go home. Remeber when Favre said he wouldnt play when the game wasnt "fun" anymore? He started the serious talk about retiring when he felt that he was going to have to carry the Pack and teach new players and that wasnt fun it was too much. I think too that he finally didnt want to trade a career with the Packers for a one year contract with the Vikes too. But right now Im happy for him and for us packer fans. But also like Gullrock I'll keep one eye open just in case! OUTFREAKINSTANDING!  RANGERS LEAD THE WAY! |
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Post by packfanforever on Jul 29, 2009 10:29:35 GMT -5
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Post by amoeba15 on Jul 29, 2009 10:47:04 GMT -5
Regarding the possibility that the Packers offered Favre money to stay retired and this influenced Favre's decision to stay retired, I found the following article from May 13, 2009: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 Roundup: Packers' offer to Favre not on table Packers President Mark Murphy didn’t say it. Maybe he didn’t even mean to imply it. But it sure seems like the Packers have no intention of offering Brett Favre a personal services contract similar to the 10-year, $20 million deal that was extended last summer.Murphy is on the road with the Packers Tailgate Tour, and while in Hudson, Wis., the Star Tribune of Minneapolis asked him specifically about whether the Packers’ offer to Favre was still on the table. Murphy’s reply: “At this point, he’s just retired from the Jets and at this point we’re really just going to kind of wait and see how things play out. But in the long run we do want to have a relationship with Brett. We’re going to retire his number. What that relationship looks like, who knows? But kind of like we have with Bart Starr and some of our other great players. We want to have them back and I think he’ll be remembered as a Packer. But, obviously, I think we all need some time to pass before we make those decisions.”Translation: At this point Brett isn’t getting a plug nickel from the Packers. Even if the Packers did put another offer on the table, Favre might spurn those overtures as he did last year. Favre might be more interested in sticking it to the Packers by signing with the Minnesota Vikings. At this point, we are sure of only a couple things: It seems apparent the Packers are still willing to retire Favre’s No. 4, but time is needed to heal the wounds inflicted over the past year. www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/2009/05/roundup-packers-offer-to-favre-not-on.html |
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Post by WhatUSaid on Jul 29, 2009 13:35:23 GMT -5
HAHAHAHAHA!
Is it finally over, who knows?
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Post by 50poundhead on Jul 30, 2009 12:08:20 GMT -5
I listened to a lot of KFAN yesterday to get the Viking station perspective and I sense, especially from the objective Dan Barreiro, that the Vikings have made this sound like it's been "all Favre" on this thing when it's really been "all Vikings," especially Darrell Bevell offering everything short of a lifetime supply of bj's trying to get Favre to suit up.
I know I'm trodding amongst Badger fans, but I think Bevell is a sanctimonious little twerp who probably harbors a grudge against Thompson and McCarthy for showing him the door along with Sherman.
What's leaking out now is that Favre supposedly told the Vikings about ten days ago that it was unlikely he would return but the Vikings wouldn't let their dream die.
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Post by packerbap on Jul 30, 2009 12:22:00 GMT -5
What's leaking out now is that Favre supposedly told the Vikings about ten days ago that it was unlikely he would return but the Vikings wouldn't let their dream die.
I read the same thing. Seems after he said no last week the text and phone messages began. I wonder how much they paid them to make the contact.
If he's not playing after the Nov. 1 game I'll believe he's retired.
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