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Post by brewerbruce on Mar 12, 2009 7:24:11 GMT -5
I don't get this. If you don't believe in God, why do you feel compelled to have to shout it to the world?
By Associated Press Mar. 11, 2009 | Madison - An atheists' group and a church are taking their rivalry on the road, using ad space on Madison Transit buses to display their competing messages.
The Madison-based Freedom From Religion Foundation is spending $2,100 on six signs appearing for up to two months inside 50 buses. Each sign has a quotation questioning religion or giving reasons for not believing.
A quote from the late actress Butterfly McQueen, who appeared in the movie "Gone With the Wind," says, "As my ancestors are free from slavery, I am free from the slavery of religion."
In response to the ads, Pilgrims Covenant Church in Monroe said this week it purchased space on the outside of 11 Metro Transit buses for an ad quoting Psalm 14, verse 1: "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God."
The church's ads cover a large part of one side of each bus
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Post by happypacker on Mar 12, 2009 12:29:38 GMT -5
evil always trys to find ways to bring down the moral sound people of the world.
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Post by badgernation on Mar 12, 2009 12:30:32 GMT -5
We've had Freedom from Religion put their opininated noses into city concerns / matters for years now..... They like to tell us here in La Crosse that they know what is the best for us....
We had a small Ten Commandments monument is a city park that they said offended them and demanded that it be removed..... Many people whom live in La Crosse didn't even know it existed.... Well this matter went to court and in the end.... The City sold a small part of the park to a private interest... which moved the monument and put a fence around it and moved it to a place that placed it more in view of the public... Guess FFR really showed us....
Can't stand those people with a passion
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Post by thegreenmeanie on Mar 12, 2009 13:04:03 GMT -5
Uhhh I am not religious at all, and am far from evil. Also many people who claim to be religious are far from moral. I wouldn't make such broad stereotypes.
I really wish people would keep to themselves on both sides of the isle. Unfortunately that will never happen. I don't think this is that horrible. If they were protesting outside churches or starting fights with people I would see your guy's side a little more. Unless there is something I missed it appears to just be an advertisement.
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Post by TMWight on Mar 18, 2009 13:04:42 GMT -5
I tend to side with the group that wants the Ten Commandments out of the park and off government buildings. Separation of church and state, parks are government property and should abide by the standards put forth by our forefathers. I'm Catholic and have a deep religious background and a deep religious family background and that still offends me to have those Commandments up.
But I guess the Pope was right in saying we can't be Catholic and pro-choice, basically we can't have our cake and eat it too. But last time I checked the Pope wasn't my judge...
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Post by badgernation on Mar 18, 2009 13:57:01 GMT -5
What bothered me was that the people that were making the Commandments an issue were not from La Crosse... If the citizens of La Crosse were up in arms about it... fine..... Then we can bring it up...
BTW... If the vast majority have no problems with something (say 90% which was the estimate in this matter) Why should the vast minority be able to impose their will?
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Post by thegreenmeanie on Mar 18, 2009 14:51:23 GMT -5
I hear ya BN, however I agree that separation of church and state is very important to this country and has been blurred too much already. It was still a gov owned park and I would agree that they do not belong there. Now I don't have a problem with what they did for a solution because for me the issue isn't the commandments. It's people understanding that religion and gov property need to remain separate.
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Post by packerconvert on Mar 18, 2009 16:30:28 GMT -5
Better start scrubbing the money. This was never a blurred issue.
The only intent behind separation of church and state is that the American government would not sponsor head a national church and have the President as the head of that Church to avoid the crap in England by having the Queen the head of the Anglican church.
That is all it was intended towards. Nothing more.
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Post by thegreenmeanie on Mar 18, 2009 16:33:06 GMT -5
Have you ever read the words of the founding fathers in regards to religion especially Christianity? After all, they were deist and believed religion didn't belong anywhere near politics. It follows the same lines of lets not make the same mistakes, but there was more behind it than that.
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Post by packerconvert on Mar 18, 2009 16:35:17 GMT -5
You are correct that the Founding Fathers were Deist, but the original intent is still the same.
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Post by thegreenmeanie on Mar 18, 2009 16:36:53 GMT -5
Next lets talk about what they said about corporations and taxes. For people so highly admired by today's politicians they sure act like they never read a word they said.
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