Has the window closed?

[TW]

We don't have to accept what this article says, but we do need to face the fact that the days of Rodgers, Nelson, and Matthews being dominating players in the league is drawing to a close, along with the supporting cast starting to change. It's what we should all fear most.

What makes the problem worse is that there are too many fans out here who have accepted under achieving seasons as being great ones. It's what leads to decades of below average teams. Those of us who supported this team in the 70s and 80s did so because we had faith they'd come back, but now... I'm not going to hold my breath thinking that today's Packer fan is really all that adamant, that they'll flock to the stadium paying for over priced tickets to watch a team that boasts nothing but mediocre to nearly unacceptable players, because nobody wants to play there.

I've heard it all. "Can't happen! The salary cap stops it. Can't leave because of contracts!" It's all bull. We were in hell until they convinced Reggie White to go to Green Bay to play. His coming to the Packers, along with the trade to get Favre... pure genius, and Ron Wolf is being bashed by newer fans as not being creative enough to compete today. Talk about ignorance!

I'm 75 years old. If I'm around 10 years from now to say it, I'll be lucky. So, I'll say it today.

"Mike McCarthy's inability to adjust on the fly, and his mediocre defenses under Capers, have undermined what should have been a Green Bay dynasty. His Super Bowl win was an "accident." He's not that good a coach, and people have accepted mediocrity as being quality.

I hope fans come to their senses and stop this slide. If they don't, they're going to get exactly what we got in the 70s and 80s, with a parade of quality players leaving GB for greener pastures, as soon as they could.

I'll never forget Ted "The Stork" Hendricks. This guy was an animal at LB, and the day he hit GB announced he was "outta here," as soon as the season was over, for another contract, even if it was less than Green Bay offered. If you don't remember this, you ought to read about it, and understand that those who don't understand history are bound to repeat it.

Window of Opportunity Closing

[68md]

Heck of a post.... I agree but you can't say this everywhere or you get ripped for being a troll. The window has 1 or 2 seasons left and then contracts take there toll. Rodgers is a stud QB but he's going to be mid 30's and an injury away from missing a lot of time. I was there for the 70's and 80's and the fans under 35 won't be able to handle that again like we did for sure.

[TW]

You'll never have to worry about being called a troll on this site, when you voice an opinion. I believe you're right. Younger fans will never go through what we did, and still support the team.

We've been lucky. Blessed by two consecutive HOF QBs. The only team I've seen that could match our luck would be the 49ers with Montana and Young. It just doesn't happen in this game, because you can't afford to "stash" a quality player. They leave, via free agency. After Rodgers, I fear for the worst.

[happypacker]

Hundley looks very good, but like you say be able to keep him? plus, I am looking into the schools and do not read or see any big time QB.s coming out in the next few years. I am hoping for This QB and team to get at least one more SB, and maybe we get "lucky with some good QB from Rodgers replacement.whoever it may be.

[TW]

Hundley has surprised me to be honest. He shows a much higher acumen for the job than I thought he had, when he first came to the Packers. He seems to have the potential to be a pretty good QB. Especially if he gets into the right system.

It's so difficult evaluating QBs in advance. I totally understand where you're coming from. They don't necessarily show their real skill set until their senior year in college, and even then, the question as to how they fit into an existing system is a question that needs to be answered.

I thought Rodgers was a great pick. Why? His experience and skill set seemed to fit what the Packers saw as their offensive direction. He was more in tune with it than what Favre was, no doubt about it. That's why it was easy for McCarthy & Thompson to make the switch.

Hundley shows a lot of the same characteristics as Rodgers. He may be capable of stepping in and doing the job, if needed. At least I hope so, because we're always one play away from Hundley starting games for the rest of the season, on almost every snap on offense.

The best statement I heard, in reference to Rodgers' replacement, is that he's about to be entering his junior year in HS, and nobody has a clue as to how good he can be, and when he's going to arrive at the level where they grab him in the draft.

I agree that they still have the horses to get another Lombardi Trophy. The two issues. Health, and will McCarthy turn his offense loose to do those things that can make them the most dangerous offensive team in the league.

[happypacker]

that is one thing I always thought MM did not do. "put the foot to the pedal" always score as much as you can, never know how things can change . SNAP< just like that!

[TW]

Agreed. After watching leads disappear so quickly with our prevent defense and dumbed down offense, to hold leads, I worried when we were even up 17 points in games with about a quarter left. I've always compared NFL offenses and defenses to locomotives. They build up speed slowly, and if you take your hand off the throttle, and let it slow down considerably, getting it back up to full speed isn't as easy as just putting the pedal down. Most times, you don't get back up to full speed like you should, before it's too late to do it.

My favorite analogy:

You're the engineer of a train. You have a two-mile course you have to cover. You are required to drive the first mile at 30 MPH. What speed do you have to be going to average 60 MPH over the two-mile course?

I'll post the answer tomorrow! LOL

[oakleaf]

Jul 31, 2016 15:58:35 GMT -5 TW said:

Agreed. After watching leads disappear so quickly with our prevent defense and dumbed down offense, to hold leads, I worried when we were even up 17 points in games with about a quarter left. I've always compared NFL offenses and defenses to locomotives. They build up speed slowly, and if you take your hand off the throttle, and let it slow down considerably, getting it back up to full speed isn't as easy as just putting the pedal down. Most times, you don't get back up to full speed like you should, before it's too late to do it.

My favorite analogy:

You're the engineer of a train. You have a two-mile course you have to cover. You are required to drive the first mile at 30 MPH. What speed do you have to be going to average 60 MPH over the two-mile course?

I'll post the answer tomorrow! LOL

I could do the second half in no time at all and average 60mph over the course! Of course, I'd have to be driving an Infiniti...

[TW]

Well constructed answer. Sheldon will be proud. LOL

[oakleaf]

Bazinga!