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Post by TW on Oct 25, 2012 9:27:35 GMT -5
Four years ago, when Colin Powell endorsed Obama, a lot of right-wingers stated it was because Obama was black. Yet, over the course of the last 4 years, Powell's focus has remained conservatism, but practiced with moderation.
Today, Powell again endorsed Obama, but went into the reasoning, and pretty much stated things that are now considered left wing, which were fairly well established in the moderate conservative column when Reagan was President. In other words, the party shift has been enormous.
I like Powell, and had he run for the Presidency as a Republican, I would have voted for him. I still think he's the best guy out there.
It's my hope that if Obama is reelected, he taps Powell to ask him if he'd be Secretary of State when Hillary Clinton steps down. I know this would be a repeat for him, but he's a great option.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2012 15:24:40 GMT -5
That could turn out to be huge for Obama. I'll bet the Romney camp is furious of this!
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Post by TW on Oct 25, 2012 15:38:47 GMT -5
I would imagine this is going to hit Romney very hard, especially when it comes to conservative minorities, and those who are moderate conservatives in general.
The comments he made this morning were on point, as he discussed the actual actions of the last four years, and he even indicated that even though Obamacare needs modifications to lessen the impact on employers, it was a program that's been needed, since major manufacturers have shipped their manufacturing overseas, where fringe packages are generally paid for under socialized medicine programs.
I tend to agree, and also feel that we need to focus on cutting the fat out of that program, and getting rising medical costs in check, across the board. One of the biggest offenders is the insurance companies that are holding billions of dollars in contingency monies, and building those reserves even higher, citing issues like Katrina, and the Florida hurricane, that pushed many of them to reorganize, and essentially default on paying claims.
It puzzles me why an insurance company would have a billion dollar contingency plan for hurricanes, when they don't even insure people in hurricane country.
It also puzzles me as to why the government continues to allow attorneys and insurance companies to work in collusion to avoid allowing people fair and impartial settlements without them taking a minimum of 30%, for doing absolutely nothing, on claims.
Every time I see an attorney advertise that they get so much money for their clients they usually get a settlement, and don't need to go to court... I cringe. They settle on an agreed amount just so they "guarantee" their cut, not because they think it's fair to their clients.
I think they should pay a stiffer price than a reduction of roughly 10%. Instead of 30% with a settlement, and 40% with it going to court, it should be 15% for settlement, and 40% for court. They'd sure as hell try to do more for their clients.
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Post by TW on Oct 26, 2012 13:49:03 GMT -5
John Sununu went on TV, and stated that he figured Powell's support of Obama is racial. I guess we can then assume that since that's the kind of ideology he's pushing, he's for Romney simply because he's white.
The fact is, that's probably true of one whole hell of a lot of Republicans who won't admit it, but harbor some strong racial feelings.
It's amazing how stupid some people are. Sununu can be counted among them.
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Post by packerconvert on Nov 2, 2012 7:14:36 GMT -5
Cripes. You can't have it both ways TW.
If a person that opposes Obama is a racist, as you claim, then the same holds true that race was the basis for Powells decision to support Obama.
True, he sugar coated it well to slap you and the rest of the Obama Gaga Group with his right hand of common sense while his left hand was giving you and the rest of the conservative white community the bird.
It is shown that 98 percent of blacks support Obama and it ain't because of his policies.
Break free from the Matrix. You can do better.
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Post by TW on Nov 2, 2012 9:21:10 GMT -5
I'm sorry. I stand by what I said. It's obvious that Sununu tried to use race as an issue to discredit Powell. That makes it a racist statement, plain and simple.
Of course 98% of the blacks vote for Obama. Of course much of it is because he is black. Yet, in the past, wasn't the percentage of minorities voting Democratic much higher in percentage than those voting Republican? So, that kind of tempers the percent, but doesn't change the situation.
My guess is that a large majority of Mormons will vote for Romney. Some will vote for him because they believe in his philosophy of government, some simply because of his being Mormon, and others because he's "not black." That doesn't make all of them racist, but let's face it, some will be.
The "solid South." I think we've discussed this before. It used to be solidly in the Democratic side. It really had been since the end of the Civil War, when the north, and the Republicans, freed slaves.
The Southern Democrats had that "good old boy society" just humming along, keeping them black folk in line, by making sure they couldn't vote.
Then something happened. Kennedy & Johnson. Those two changed things, by getting rights to the minorities.
Of course that rankled southern whites, didn't it? They changed their allegiance, and went Republican. They are now the backbone of the Republican party, and we both know damned well, it's strictly because of racist views.
So... in reality, a very large percentage of Republican voters are really racists, and they flourish on the right, where they talk about repealing any program, or any law, that would support human rights, or dignity.
I guess I'm going to have to stay with my point of view.
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Post by packerconvert on Nov 2, 2012 9:59:47 GMT -5
Quit trying to slap me with your right hand when giving me the finger with your left. Though I loved the history lesson, you got way off point on addressing whether Powell supports Obama because he's black or because he firmly believes that President Obama has done a great job on behalf of minority groups and the working poor. No one in their right mind can say President Obama has been good for this country. Pun intended.  |
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Post by TW on Nov 2, 2012 10:53:04 GMT -5
For openers, Sununu's statement was based on his own "personal opinion," and it doesn't really point towards Powell's reasoning for his choice.
What Sununu did was paint Powell as racist, simply because he didn't agree with his choice, and used a racial issue to make his point.
From where I stand, that's obviously a racist point of view by Sununu, and you can't change it to mean anything else, regardless of how hard you try to change it.
Sorry! You're wrong!
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Post by TW on Nov 2, 2012 10:57:39 GMT -5
Your question doesn't mean anything. Sorry. Your argument should be asking the question as to how far behind we've fallen since the right refused to help create a base of government unless they controlled, and dictated exactly what would happen, to whom, and when.
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Post by packerconvert on Nov 2, 2012 12:26:30 GMT -5
We really should move beyond Democrat vs Republican.
It's big business that has screwed this nation up from bankrupting taxpayers to invoking farm policies that make us and our children sick and this race crap is to distract us saps.
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Post by TW on Nov 2, 2012 13:12:13 GMT -5
Regardless of who controls what after the November election, let's hope they use common sense in the coming years, and do something positive for the majority of people, and without turning it into a total pissing match of hatred.
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Post by packerconvert on Nov 2, 2012 13:38:38 GMT -5
Agreed.
And only the people can stop being manipulated and use their brain instead of regurgitating what the rich want them to to do, on both sides of the aisle.
Very disgusted with the entire system right now.
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