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Post by TW on Aug 16, 2012 14:11:00 GMT -5
Thanks for finding ways to destroy the beauty of Northern Wisconsin, Governor Walker. I'm certain your friends who gobbled up all the potential profitability out of these operations will be more than happy to allow a little of their success trickle down their leg, when they laugh so hard they wet their pants over how gullible Wisconsinites were. www.ricelakeonline.com/main.asp?SectionID=32&SubSectionID=113&ArticleID=24304
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Post by packerconvert on Aug 16, 2012 16:33:50 GMT -5
I agree. Keep those punks on the unemployment line. Who needs a job anyway in this economy. I wonder why those rail lines were there in the first place. Hmmm.
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Post by TW on Aug 16, 2012 17:43:17 GMT -5
Those jobs are temporary, but the damage to Northern Wisconsin and the damage to future tourism, will go on forever.
Apparently you haven't seen the pictures of the damage they cause everywhere they go.
Why in hell you believe the few jobs is worth destroying the northern half of a state escapes me. Of course, Since SD is 50% wasteland, it makes sense.
That's not what we need in Wisconsin. It's bull!
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Post by packerconvert on Aug 16, 2012 18:20:49 GMT -5
So those old train tracks were for tourism back in the day?
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Post by TW on Aug 16, 2012 23:24:43 GMT -5
The train tracks aren't the issue. The issue is the mining itself. You should know that, if you've studied the issue.
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Post by packerconvert on Aug 17, 2012 13:46:03 GMT -5
Where I come from, train tracks aren't part of nature's beauty.
Most Native Americans I talk to say the train tracks didn't happen until the white man came and wrecked the true, natural beauty of northern Wisconsin.
I guess, now, you know what it is to be Native American.
Shake your fist at the rich white man.
Tell him they are ruining your sacred lands.
Run and tell your people it is a bad deal to let these rich white eye onto our lands.
Then run down to McDonalds and have a big mac admiring those beautiful train tracks heading north; the train tracks that were used for hauling natural resources OUT of northern wisconsin all those years ago.
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Post by TW on Aug 17, 2012 15:01:59 GMT -5
The train tracks are going to be used to support the mining operations. As an opponent to the mining, I have no choice but oppose the train tracks, because they'll only be used for the mining, then abandoned.
Now, if you can show me a plan where at the end of the mining, the areas mined will be turned back into forest lands, and the water won't be contaminated, I'd be more than happy to listen, because rail service to areas of beauty would be great.
Adding to my consternation is the fact that Walker opposes a high speed people mover around the state, which has long range effects on favorable growth, yet he supports rails for big bucks enterprises to thrive.
Kind of two-faced if you ask me.
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Post by packerconvert on Aug 17, 2012 16:19:51 GMT -5
Read the article. They are rehabilitating train tracks that are already there and have already been abandoned prior.
The difference between the high speed liberal express you are consterned about and the tracks mentioned in the article is that all taxpayers, way up north in Wisconsin, would be forced to pay for it with no benefit at all, whereas, the company in the article is paying to rehabilitate the tracks without taxpayer money.
What part of, "the government's broke" do you not understand?
The way to get this economy going is to get the private investors to spend their money and employing people who need jobs.
The Feds have exhausted all options to move the economy along. It's time to unchain (lol) the private sector to take the lead and Walker understands this.
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Post by TW on Aug 17, 2012 16:55:19 GMT -5
I'm telling you again. The tracks are only to serve the mining operations which I oppose.
I don't know why the state should give these right-aways away.
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Post by packerconvert on Aug 17, 2012 17:50:09 GMT -5
And I am telling you the tracks were already used for purposes you oppose.
They are merely be used for the same purpose, AGAIN, that is why they are being refurbished.
It kinda shoots a hole in your outrage of ruining the northern beauty of this state when it the northwoods have already been exploited as such by generations past.
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Post by TW on Aug 17, 2012 23:01:28 GMT -5
You're the one avoiding the reality of it being a different type of operation.
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Post by packerconvert on Aug 18, 2012 8:23:08 GMT -5
You're the one avoiding the reality of it being a different type of operation. Dude. The tracks have always been used to remove natural resources from the northwoods, whether it be 2012 or yesteryear. I was merely addressing your consternation about having the northwoods distrubed when they've already been disturbed. And If I understand environmental law, they do have return things to their natual condition via the Reclamation Act. How that is done and paid for is what shold be researched, but I'm too lazy and Scott Walker's a Republicans, so I know he isn't double dealin' and double talkin' like those lefties trying to run for State office.
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Post by TW on Aug 18, 2012 8:41:06 GMT -5
Since you refuse to read the environmental impact studies made, and go along with the Walker plan for giving away the state, I'm going to let you believe what you want.
When the reports of silicosis, and contaminated ground waters start mounting up, you can find another excuse for backing someone whose only intent is to rape the state.
Of course you'll be able to say; "I didn't know!," like a good little supporter of greed mattering over the lives of others.
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Post by packerconvert on Aug 18, 2012 9:07:55 GMT -5
Since you refuse to read the environmental impact studies made, and go along with the Walker plan for giving away the state, I'm going to let you believe what you want. When the reports of silicosis, and contaminated ground waters start mounting up, you can find another excuse for backing someone whose only intent is to rape the state. Of course you'll be able to say; "I didn't know!," like a good little supporter of greed mattering over the lives of others. Agreed. P.S. I was and never have been discussing the impact of the mine. I was addressing your first statement in this thread as the natural beauty of the northwoods has already been corrupted making your statement moot. Your feelings about mining, though admirable, fall on deaf ears. Ask the Native Americans. They have a long history of enduring the wrecking of natural habitats and did any "white-eye" care? Only when it personally affects us do we care. That is the nature of man.
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