If you've been around a while....

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Years ago, I said that Nelson would end up being one of the top receivers on the Packers. I said the same thing years earlier, about Driver. Since Nelson, I haven't been overly impressed with receivers until the Packers grabbed Abbrederis.

I've watched the kid play, and I see another Jordy Nelson. I've seen his routes in college becoming crisp, and from what I've seen in the NFL, he has the tools, just needs to stay healthy.

If... now, as I said, "IF," he stays healthy, Abbs is going to be the #2 receiver in 2017, and Janis will be #3. These three guys are the kind that give you 100% of what they've got on every play, and that's what makes them special.

Abbs is going to be a great one, if he stays healthy.

McCarthy on Abbs

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We need Nelson and Abbs to both stay healthy. Hopefully we can give Rodgers time to throw and our offense could become potent again. I'm starting to get excited for Packer football!

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Same here. The Packers are starting to use the younger guys in the mini camp, and their skill sets are showing. They spent too much time grooming a couple of guys who'd already peaked, and wouldn't be there when needed. I have a hunch we won't see Cobb after this coming season to be honest. Like someone said, "He's a potato chip." Gets broken up too easily.

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If they we smart, I think I would start nelson, Janis, Cobb. Then Monty, Abbs, T. Davis, Adams, keep those six. Use the Te Cook a lot in three set formations.I would like to see something like nelson, Janis, Cook, on a second down.

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There are "body types" in this group. Cobb and Montgomery aren't physically strong. They're the fleas. Adams is a tweener. Davis? Not certain yet. Janis is also a tweener. Abbs & Nelson are physically stronger than most players. They look lean but carry a lot of muscle on their frames. They hold up well when there's contact in hook routes, and balls thrown into tight coverage. Cobb and Montgomery wilt when they get hit. But they have specific value. You need all three types on your team.

I haven't got a clue what direction it's going to go but I think Adams & Montgomery are in more of a fight than anyone imagines, to make the team. The problem is, if I remember correctly, both are under guaranteed contracts that could hurt our cap position if they are dumped.

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Davis is looked at as a returner first, and he will have a shot at receiver, he is smallish and light but with good speed. Janis is a BEAST, he is tall, fast and at 217 lbs one of the strongest receivers on the team the thing about Monty was that he is to be used like Cobb, and that the main difference in Monty and Cobb was he is much bigger in the upper body he was to be groomed for the slot or slant patterns Abbs is a light wright that needs to put on muscle. he was injured two times because of his s light frame, no speed by him but good route runner with strong hands..Adams needs to have his hands sith stickum if he wants to stick on the roster this year.

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Janis has size but doesn't play big. He hasn't shown he can be physical against defenders. When he masters that, he will be better receiver.

We have to remember that Rodgers isn't afraid to throw into coverage, so receivers need to be able to hand fight for the ball. The only three who do that are Nelson, Janis, and Abbs.

Abbs is a slighter build than those guys. Adams is bigger too. But it goes beyond their weight. It's hand strength, fighting off defenders for the ball. When Nelson came into the league he was a solid 10# lighter, and gained strength and weight. I don't know if Abbs can do it, but if he can, he could be solid.

I know speed is important but I've watched football so long and saw guys like Raymond Berry, Steve Largent, Fred Bilitnikoff, and others, who weren't speed merchants but had great hands, and knew where they needed to be on the field, develop into some of the best that ever played the game. It's more about playing smart than fast. If fast was the key, Cobb would be the best Packers receiver, and Percy Harvin would been great too.

I'll take football savvy over speed any day. I remember how they said Nelson wasn't fast enough to run outside routes. His 40 speed was only 4.51, but look at how he gets separation. It's not only speed, it's how you get there. Abbs has run a 4.40 and at the combine did 4.50. Janis is in the 4.33 range, so he's the quickest. Abbs problem coming into the league was strength. If you believe McCarthy, he's come into camp this year, a lot stronger.

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Abbs. must have read my comment, he has said he worked hard this off season to ADD muscle to his frame. Very hard for him to do ,he stated but did mange about 8 lbs.