Tonight's Debate

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Who won?

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If I had to pick a winner I have to go with Romney tonight. He still didn't convince me to trust him but I thought he did well tonight.

[TW]

I'm still waiting for Romney to tell us what his "plan" is. So far, he says he's going to do things, but how? Secretive, because he knows it will alienate too many voters.

I think he's a puppet.

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I agree with that 100%. On the flip side, Obama didn't do very well last night IMO

[TW]

I didn't expect round one to go to Obama to be honest. I knew Romney would trot out all the old comments, but wouldn't come up with real solutions to problems.

Round two, Obama will leave him in the dust, because now he knows there is no substance to Romney's candidacy. He has no plan, just smoke and mirrors.

[happypacker]

I agree, Romney talks a lot but says little.
I also feel that what Romney and most people will say in with there friends is closer to how you feel towards something. in other words , he does not want the hard working peole to get any help from government. all while helping his rich friends keep all they steal from the working majority.
He made one statement that really shows how far away he is
. He thinks that every single person can work hard, and become rich like him and other rich. well guess what never possible, without the working public nothing can get done.
to many chiefs and not enough Indians to do the hard work. he wants the many to be dirt poor and hungry.

[packerconvert]

I had it Obama 1, Romney 0

Romney didn't explain anything that I wanted him to explain, i.e., if he is going to repeal and replace Obamacare, what is he going to replace it with?

I agree that he can't necessarily be specific on all his plans as he doe have to work with Congress, but I do think he can throw some ideas out there as to which tax loopholes he would close. I think it's a slam dunk to close the tax loopholes for deducting interest on 2nd homes etc.
At the very least, make a proposal in that regard.

Romney didn't meet my expectations and I actually thought he was a little rude.

Obama, on the other hand, met my expectations. He' still an empty suit.

I also hated the format. What was the purpose of having Lehrer there? The purpose of having a moderator is to moderate and direct the course of discussion. *sigh*

Americans should be disgusted when they step inside the voting booth to vote this year, but please, with that disgust vote Romney/Ryan to give voice to yoru disappointment in the leadership of Barack Usama, I mean Obama.

Thank you.

[TW]

I tend to agree with PC. Romney didn't offer one thing up with substance. All he did was allude to what he intended to do without giving anyone a clue as to how they'd get there.

I also went back, and viewed fact checks on the things Romney said, and quite honestly, I don't understand why Obama didn't lay waste to every one of his arguments.

Then I got to thinking. Maybe Obama figures everyone knows that all those so called "plans" by Romney were bogus, and Americans already knew it. Instead, he'd just opt to use info about how he'd go about making changes, and state which changes worked, and which didn't.

One thing that made me laugh was when Romney said that half the alternate energy support programs supported by Obama failed. In reality, of the 33 they put money in, only 3 collapsed, and that's only 9% of the total number, not 50%. Also, it's well below the national failure rate of businesses.

On a good note, for all of us, unemployment dropped under 8% to 7.7% nationally. Yet, even that is misleading, because it only counts those eligible for unemployment, those who have exhausted would double that figure if included.

[happypacker]

I listened very closely to all of Mitt Romney's talks as of late, He repeatedly promised to get rid Of Public broading System and BIG BIRD.
I guess we know what he wants to do for this country!

[packerconvert]

Here is how I see it.

Obama supporters are like domestic abuse victims. They've been beaten down by this President. They've see their real income decline through stagnant wages, they have suffered the 4th year of trillion dollar deficits adding 5 billion to the overall debt and there stands Obama, with flowers in hands, saying, "I promise to do better honey."

And like an abuse victim, the Obama supporter stays with their abuser. Though they may dream that Romeny could make them happy, they don't feel they deserve better and they don't dare dream so big and stay with what they know.

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Have you all decided who you are voting for? I'm having a hard time wanting either one of them. Neither one have a clear plan on how to reduce the deficit or even balance the budget!

[TW]

I keep wondering how either will cut the federal budget without cutting into federal jobs, which will actually swell the unemployment roles, and create early retirements that are going to be paid for yearly for a long time.

I'm still a believer we tax the hell out of imports just like Obama did with the Chinese tires, and keep our jobs here, and create competition capability for home produced products.

[packerconvert]

Romney wants to create jobs. Obama does too, but Obama had his chance with a Democraticlly controlled Congress but chose to play footsey with Pelosi and Reid instead of taking command and putting forth a comprehensive jobs bill which could have listed many of the things TW mentioned.

Create jobs! Creat Jobs! Creat Jobs! The rest will fix itself when the nation is strong.

[TW]

Can't argue against logic.

[packerconvert]

I really don't know who I am going to vote for to be honest.

I have been seriously considering Obama because I worry about changing horses mid-stream.

If Obama had never taken office, this country very well would not have seen universal healthcare for all Americans for another 40 years.

I don't like how it was done having Obamacare shoved down the throats of Americans. I worry about the repercussions of the future because now the Republicans will think they have the right to do it and will point fingers at the Dems for already doing it.

Thankfully the Supreme Court affirmed Obama as a tax and not constiutional under the commerce clause.

With that said, America is like an addict. Perhaps under Obama, the slow, steady process of installing sound, fundamental structures to protect America from ever having Wall Street affect America as it has, promoting green jobs and clean technologies to steer us away from the middle east are the investments we need to get the addict clean and productive.

With Romeny, I feel his quick fix will be to give the junkie cocaine to get him back to his normal, but we know where addicts end up when they don't fix the problems that ail them, yet I agree with him with regard to coal and the oil pipeline. *sigh*

I really am not sure who I will vote for and I think part of it is because I don't like our choices and, surprisingly, there are people way smarter than me that know which policies will make this country strong. I just wish we could hear from them and not the talking heads with an agenda on television.